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    parts reproduction

    Does anyone have a pair of front r5 jacking points that could be borrowed for reproduction?
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Hey matt,

    I might have one in France in my spare cardboard box which is down my garage and have all spare bumpers and parts for my GTT.
    What does it look like? I can dig it out mid november if interested.

    cheers
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    Re: parts reproduction

    I am going through my shed (this weekend) to find my spare sets as well as a battery tray and clamp and hopefully get to a local company to see what they can do.
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    Re: parts reproduction

    well, it is not what I thought, sorry about that.

    Best of luck for the following, I assume you'll find one soon
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Worth doing fuel tank straps whilst at it? Anything else, just trying to think what else I have in my shed
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Dale,

    These could be excellent for the club shop.

    Everyone needs jacking points!

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Got a N/S/F, O/S/F already welded on car. Cant believe price and availability of these now.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    iv been looking at doing this, but no one iv asked seems to have any!!! don't think many want to admit stashing them away, its going to be the parts that I think will defo get reproduced somewere

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by evogill View Post
    iv been looking at doing this, but no one iv asked seems to have any!!! don't think many want to admit stashing them away, its going to be the parts that I think will defo get reproduced somewere
    Well it should be RTOC to reproduce these. I'm happy to try and help but we need to source some. If it's viable I suggest the club could purchase what's available? I think they are £139 a side from recent eBay ads.
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    Re: parts reproduction

    I have 3 sets of these as was purchasing them for both my cars for future and for a local member who hasn't asked for them. Local member and myself managed to get into the shed and start sorting out the parts. Didn't quite get to the brand new parts shel but it's now easy accessible so hopefully need weekend will be start of sorting out those

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    Re: parts reproduction

    I have some in the loft somewhere.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Liam/Dale,

    If we have a set to replicate then that's great news! Are we now looking for a firm that can reproduce these and get a cost for maybe 10 sets?
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    Re: parts reproduction

    i am in need of a set right now so will happily stump up some funds if it means I get them first :-)
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Lets make this happen guys. The future of the club would really be boosted if we can souce and replicate parts like this, it keeps the cars on the road and also helps keep prices down.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    I need a set myself. I guess we could do a group buy and the remainder for club shop?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    If you can send one to me, I can have a look into copying it. 👍 I wouldn't be able to make exactly like OE with all the pressed shapes, but it would be close.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty View Post
    If you can send one to me, I can have a look into copying it. 👍 I wouldn't be able to make exactly like OE with all the pressed shapes, but it would be close.
    Matty. Could you do this exclusively for rtoc? The reason being is we would not want to be stuck with a load of stock if available elsewhere.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Yeah no problem. I would rather do a batch and send them to whoever to sell/dispatch from the club shop, than be stuck with a load of them to try and shift myself. They should be relatively cheap to make if made in bulk.
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Matt. That's great. I guess we just need a set for you to copy...........
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    Re: parts reproduction

    If they are identical to each other just mirrored then just one should be fine.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Pretty sure these are indeed mirrored.
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Would mine get damaged during the copying process???? I wouldn't be that keen on posting them if I am honest....

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by LiamR View Post
    Would mine get damaged during the copying process???? I wouldn't be that keen on posting them if I am honest....
    Liam,

    I've never touched one but I imagine posting wouldn't be an issue and they should not be damaged?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by LiamR View Post
    Would mine get damaged during the copying process???? I wouldn't be that keen on posting them if I am honest....
    Not at all, it will only be used to measure from to get some parts water jet out, to get the holes in correct place etc... Then it will be used to check against once the bends have been put into place on the new ones. More of a comparative part than anything else.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    It would be good to get bumper strips made . As people are trying to sell the for 350 on eBay how would we do that?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    I reckon the Phase2 front bumper rub strips could be made on a 3D printer.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty View Post
    Not at all, it will only be used to measure from to get some parts water jet out, to get the holes in correct place etc... Then it will be used to check against once the bends have been put into place on the new ones. More of a comparative part than anything else.
    Liam/Dale,

    Would you guys be willing to loan the jacking point to Matty for reproduction? If not the club may need to purchase one for the purpose.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Shouldn't be a problem to post but obviously damage or loss paid for. Bumper strips are being done by somebody in France
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Shouldn't be a problem to post but obviously damage or loss paid for.
    Just put it in a big box with a lot of padding.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Bumper strips are being done by somebody in France
    Made for RTOC? Or do you mean we should buy a few?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    i could also do with a few sets of jacking points there just crazy prices!

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    Re: parts reproduction

    I've seen the bumper strips being done in France a while ago but nothing has come of it so far?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Shouldn't be a problem to post but obviously damage or loss paid for. Bumper strips are being done by somebody in France
    Awesome! Matt can you send Dale your address? I guess from receipt of the part it will be down to cost and timescales?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    I also have a new pair if needed ?
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cole View Post
    Awesome! Matt can you send Dale your address? I guess from receipt of the part it will be down to cost and timescales?
    Ok will do.

    Yeah it as i have an abundance of sheet ally, I will make a template out of ally and bend it all up and see how it looks. Then I can draw it up and get a price from my laser cutter for different quantities, then it will be a case of making a few up and see how long they take to do.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Worth doing fuel tank straps whilst at it? Anything else, just trying to think what else I have in my shed
    I will have one mines rotten

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    Re: parts reproduction

    I need one new bumper strip any one got one for sale but not for stupid money

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty View Post
    sheet ally
    Just as the dummy build?

    The jacking plates are steel. They need to be strong. I would expect aluminium won't do it.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cole View Post
    Does anyone have a pair of front r5 jacking points that could be borrowed for reproduction?
    I have a pair Matt, let me know if you have no luck pal 👍🏼
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian S View Post
    Just as the dummy build?

    The jacking plates are steel. They need to be strong. I would expect aluminium won't do it.
    haha, yes definitely will be made out of mild steel! I don't keep stock of much steel these days, so easier to make the prototypes out of ally. It would make it interesting welding Aluminium ones into the floor though!

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Great club spirit all.

    We just need to get one to Matty so he can measure it up and give us a cost on replicating them.

    Matty can you drop the guys a pm with your address?

    I'm not sure about postage costs but no one should be out of pocket. Ian, anything we can do to cover costs?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Could they be made from stainless steel and still have the strength and weldability and not be too much more expensive?

    As these seem to be one of the first of the original parts to corrode away. People doing repairs now would be wanting these to last indefinitely, not just a few years as Renault likely intended.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian S View Post
    Could they be made from stainless steel and still have the strength and weldability and not be too much more expensive?

    As these seem to be one of the first of the original parts to corrode away. People doing repairs now would be wanting these to last indefinitely, not just a few years as Renault likely intended.
    I suspect that'll bump the cost up quite significantly and welding SS to mild is a bit more difficult?. To be honest if new jacking points are fitted and sealed correctly they'll last for years anyway.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    I can get a price for both mild steel and stainless, in all honesty it wouldn't be massively different in material cost. You can weld mild steel to stainless fine, just use different gas when using MIG.

    The other option is to go for a heavier gauge material, although this will make it more difficult to weld to original gauge panels.

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Update on this: a bit of behind the scenes discussions and James has kindly agreed to send Matty the jacking points for assessment. Hopefully Matty can get these reproduced at a decent cost. If so, who ever wants a set should watch this space......
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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty View Post
    I can get a price for both mild steel and stainless, in all honesty it wouldn't be massively different in material cost. You can weld mild steel to stainless fine, just use different gas when using MIG.

    The other option is to go for a heavier gauge material, although this will make it more difficult to weld to original gauge panels.
    Any news on the jacking points
    Was quoted £325 for a pair
    Thanks

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Oh my.........

    Just waiting on matty to assess them and see what he can come up with........

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Was quoted £325 for a pair
    Who by?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    any update on the made up jacking points?

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    Re: parts reproduction

    Someone in Holland is making them.
    Scroll down the page to them:
    http://www.peugeot205.nl/434930587

    No price listed.
    Can't tell how strong they are.
    They might be in stainless.

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