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    one peice downpipes

    last weekend i made chris med a onepeice down pipe and was wondering if anyone would be intrested in one. currently waiting for feedback from chris as to what he thinks.

    if anyone would be intrested pm or post here.

    thanks

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Got any pics?

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Will do you a pick now its really good

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    yes give me a few minute to sort them i have pics of other downpipe i have made recently in my profile.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    nice goin liam, id like one t2 t25 fitting, what sort of price...

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    What are you charging for them?

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    £250 delivered

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    nice goin liam, id like one t2 t25 fitting, what sort of price...
    5 gtt sytle flange (4 bolt)

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    this is the one he made me just got it today and i will be fitting it tommorow its amazeing quality




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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Very nice bud.. But £250s way to steep for me I'm sure it's the going rate but not for me spent way too much lately.. Chris what you going todo about your AFR bung?

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    looks good

    what diamater are they? 2 1/2 inch?? if so I could be tempted, but a T28 flange would be required

    would a bulk order have any impact on reducing the overall cost??

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    Very nice bud.. But £250s way to steep for me I'm sure it's the going rate but not for me spent way too much lately.. Chris what you going todo about your AFR bung?
    ... i would of thought if you put a price tag of £170 plus postage etc youd get many more sales, still im sure theyre worth it and im not knocking the product in any way but id want to see the product in real detail for the £250 inc price tag.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    yes they are 2 1/2 and s/steel flange and lambda bung.

    yes if there was 5 people intrested could do them for 200+p&p.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by groky View Post
    yes they are 2 1/2 and s/steel flange and lambda bung.

    yes if there was 5 people intrested could do them for 200+p&p.
    what if theyre were 10.....

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    I could very well be interested in one with bung and a t28 flange for the blue meanie

    I'd be ready for one at the end of January most likely.


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    Re: one peice downpipes

    I'd be interested in a group buy

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    could knock £15 off for mild steel flanges instead of stainless.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Be nice to see them under £200.. The quality of the bms downpipe was amazing and the original price was £140 delivered I think for my first, then I got one of the second batch at the same price. The batches later were around the £180 mark with the group buys and selling for more to non club members. Then big jims were £150 but less pretty hence they sold but not in waves like the bms.. Then cgb got him to make him some selling for £200..

    For £200 I'd need it looking as epic as the bms, with a lower price it would roll a batch of 10 easily as then 10 excess would sell on eBay for more..

    Remember us club members are tight cnuts, we had koni group buys kicking about a year ago with some hints of prices around £400.. No interest.. Then joe blogs phones them up and scores a price of £280 10 members + are chucking money at them.

    These are something them members want but they don't just open there wallets, you have to tickle there balls first.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    Be nice to see them under £200.. The quality of the bms downpipe was amazing and the original price was £140 delivered I think for my first, then I got one of the second batch at the same price. The batches later were around the £180 mark with the group buys and selling for more to non club members. Then big jims were £150 but less pretty hence they sold but not in waves like the bms.. Then cgb got him to make him some selling for £200..

    For £200 I'd need it looking as epic as the bms, with a lower price it would roll a batch of 10 easily as then 10 excess would sell on eBay for more..

    Remember us club members are tight cnuts, we had koni group buys kicking about a year ago with some hints of prices around £400.. No interest.. Then joe blogs phones them up and scores a price of £280 10 members + are chucking money at them.

    These are something them members want but they don't just open there wallets, you have to tickle there balls first.


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    Re: one peice downpipes

    I have a bms down pipe, the quality is amazing, he made one off for me true gent. Lets tickle his balls for another batch I need a bigger one

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    you have to tickle there balls first.

    I wouldn't pay any extra for this but it's a nice gesture to get customer loyalty

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Am in need of one of these. But not at that price! Plus can the bung be put up to just after the bend of the turbo rather then near the bottom?


    Elliott

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Thing is this lad is makeing them in his spare time how much is an enlarged elbow and in stainless and an enlarged stainless down pipe? i am well happy with the price and quality i shall fit it on tommorow and will take photos and a big thanks to liam

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    i'm sorry that everyone feels they are rather expensive but it was 5 years or so ago when boris and big jim started making them but the price of materials have increased some what since. If i could get the materials cheaper i could by all means make the pipe cheaper. As for the moment £200 for 5 or more would be as low as i could go and £225 for singles.

    p.s if any has anyone contacts for materials that may be cheaper than where i get mine i can make enquiries. Which will only make the pipe cheaper.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Thing is this lad is makeing them in his spare time how much is an enlarged elbow and in stainless and an enlarged stainless down pipe? i am well happy with the price and quality i shall fit it on tommorow and will take photos and a big thanks to liam
    oh and it has got an afr bung you just cant see it on the photos i took lol

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Thing is this lad is makeing them in his spare time how much is an enlarged elbow and in stainless and an enlarged stainless down pipe? i am well happy with the price and quality i shall fit it on tommorow and will take photos and a big thanks to liam
    Borris made them in own time too. Material prices may well differ these days though? From then to now although irrelevant copper price is at least triple

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Btw they look very impressive, nices skills

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    Borris made them in own time too. Material prices may well differ these days though? From then to now although irrelevant copper price is at least triple
    I bet borris had alot more contacts and bulk orderd at trade prices makes a huge diffrence plus loads of equipment makeing it quicker and easier i really thought price was great

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    i do shop around for cheaper prices but the flanges i have laser cut and dont buy them of the shelf and get the tight mandrel bends from a supplier and the large swept bend bent out of a lengthof pipe so please dont think that im not trying to cut out the midlemen.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    New poster! (less than 10
    Last edited by B18ftMOJO5; 23-12-2012 at 00:22. Reason: wrong thread

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    Btw they look very impressive, nices skills
    thanks jrp i do agree the boris pipe does look good.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by groky View Post
    thanks jrp i do agree the boris pipe does look good.
    It would be nice to actualy have yours side by side with the bms/boris ones. Both look nice, another one cropped up a while back as a group by not by boris and I really didn't like it. ( no offence to the maker)

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by gardner51 View Post
    Plus can the bung be put up to just after the bend of the turbo rather then near the bottom?


    Elliott
    yes the lambda boss can be placed any where you require just its hidden out of sight where there is plenty of room. Also i read that afr sensors operate best 30cm from the turbo. correct me if i'm wrong just what i read.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by groky View Post
    yes the lambda boss can be placed any where you require just its hidden out of sight where there is plenty of room. Also i read that afr sensors operate best 30cm from the turbo. correct me if i'm wrong just what i read.
    I heard similar, hence the standard position of hole/bung.... Scoffs your man for that I'd imagine.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Off subject groky, but you seem handy, maybe look at making manifolds etc exhaust and bits for EFI

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    i have made manifold recently i'm currently making a manifold for r5 scotty for his f4r conversion, but on hold at the moment until i get my engine out of my 5 and out of my clio so i can mock the collectors position. not taking the engine out just for that thought both engine need work doing.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    boris's post 14 jan 2009

    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    It's nice to see people are still intrested in the one-peice downpipe I created a year or so ago, at the time it was enjoyable making them.
    On the last batch I made the prices of the laser cut flanges had increased, and the d/p price reflected that, the cheapest I could make them now would be around 160/170.
    That's taking into account the laser cut flanges, mandrell bent pipe, lambda b+b, p+p, time taken to make ect.. Unfortunatly I can't sell them for any cheaper.

    Anyways, it seems https://www.rtoc.org/boards/member.php?u=765 is ready to make a few using the jig from the 'msm' day's, sound's intresting as the one I saw looked nice. Im not in a rush to make any more so see what Jim is saying. (including pics/price?) If there any good im sure it will sort out the few people wanting a downpipe upgrade.
    And is Scott K making some more 3" downipes?

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    I heard similar, hence the standard position of hole/bung.... Scoffs your man for that I'd imagine.
    Unless yours is in the same place? But I thought it goes 6" after the turbo?

    As bms did?



    Prob rong though?

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    i have removed my old down pipe and fitted the one supplied by liam this morning. it fits really well i have just bolted it up with a couple of bolts so you can see it fitted because i want to wrap it, but it fits and clears everything but as its a 2 1/2" i am goin to shorten my heater matrix pipes just to give it abit more of a gap cheers liam


    Last edited by chris; 23-12-2012 at 11:27.

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by gardner51 View Post
    Unless yours is in the same place? But I thought it goes 6" after the turbo?

    As bms did?



    Prob rong though?

    Elliott
    You must forgive my drug lay den typing sometimes(legal drugs). My bms is same as the pic. Sorry for confusion

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    i have removed my old down pipe and fitted the one supplied by liam this morning. it fits really well i have just bolted it up with a couple of bolts so you can see it fitted because i want to wrap it, but it fits and clears everything but as its a 3" i am goin to shorten my heater matrix pipes just to give it abit more of a gap cheers liam



    looks the dogs danglys that

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Yea i am pleased with it and its 2 1/2" for some reason i wrote 3"

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Yea i am pleased with it and its 2 1/2" for some reason i wrote 3"

    wanted that extra half inch lol

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by r5_scotty View Post
    wanted that extra half inch lol
    Who doesn't

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by r5_scotty View Post
    wanted that extra half inch lol

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    ... i would of thought if you put a price tag of £170 plus postage etc youd get many more sales, still im sure theyre worth it and im not knocking the product in any way but id want to see the product in real detail for the £250 inc price tag.
    bang on there, i was think 180- 200 posted and you WILL get more sales and is a fair price

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    Guys I can tell you stainless steel had gone up on price recently, I was at piper the other day and they said there having to up there prices, they had sourced a cheaper supplier for the same quality grade steel.. But that steel rippled as it was a fraction thinner...

    £200 for a group buy ain't a bad price...

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    I can't really see the issue with the price to be fair, if the quality is good then why not pay the guy for his skills

    After all if it was that easy then we would all be knocking up our own versions, half the reason the other guys stopped bothering making them was because it wasn't really worth their time and effort

    imo we should be willing to make it worthwhile for someone to make these rather than trying to knock down the price

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    Re: one peice downpipes

    200 for a group buy price is very fair i think, iv got my bms, if not i would be putting my name down

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