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    Re: New stuff for 2011

    Scoff, what were the bolt patterns on g/b compared to block like? Did you have much work to get them to line up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Hebden View Post
    Scoff, what were the bolt patterns on g/b compared to block like? Did you have much work to get them to line up?
    compared with the old 02J ? they are the same, more or less. If you ment how did they compare with the renault bolt pattern then they're totally different - the VW pattern is a lot broader meaning the new bellhousing overhangs the renault bolt pattern.

    Bit of an update, progress is slow because I'm getting ready for a house move but I found some motivation today to machine up the injector bosses for the new inlet manifold. Thanks to clee for having the backplate with integral trumpets made for me. I made a demo runner too, it all fits pretty well. Hopefully tomorrow I can finish the other runners and start tacking it together.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    compared with the old 02J ? they are the same, more or less. If you ment how did they compare with the renault bolt pattern then they're totally different - the VW pattern is a lot broader meaning the new bellhousing overhangs the renault bolt pattern.

    Bit of an update, progress is slow because I'm getting ready for a house move but I found some motivation today to machine up the injector bosses for the new inlet manifold. Thanks to clee for having the backplate with integral trumpets made for me. I made a demo runner too, it all fits pretty well. Hopefully tomorrow I can finish the other runners and start tacking it together.

    You making two of those and we'll go halves on the development costs?

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    Re: New stuff for 2011

    development costs = 2x sheet of A4 and an HB pencil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    development costs = 2x sheet of A4 and an HB pencil
    lol...

    What is best size plenum you can fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    lol...

    What is best size plenum you can fit?
    4.5ltr at a guess. The only bit I sat down and designed was the parts you see in the picture. making the plenum will be a bit on-the-fly once I've got the rest inplace

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    Re: New stuff for 2011

    looks good, is it all from stainless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    4.5ltr at a guess. The only bit I sat down and designed was the parts you see in the picture. making the plenum will be a bit on-the-fly once I've got the rest inplace
    Will the plenum be of a tapered design or do you have enough room to mount the throttle in the middle?

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    It'll have a bit of a taper jon, end fed from behind the o/s headlamp, but I'm going for volume inplace of a sharp taper. My boost run is only 60mm, I think I would need to increase that and the size of the throttle if I wasn't going with volume.

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    Re: New stuff for 2011

    looking good Chris. 60mm? just as well you're not looking for much power

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    Looking good Scoff. I'll be looking at my manifold eventually in 2019 possibly! I think the existing is something like 40mm dia. Not sure on the volume but its piss poor. Im also using a 70mm throttle body which may have something to do with slight hesitancy on initial throttle?

    I guess its worth building something with a little more capacity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    looking good Chris. 60mm? just as well you're not looking for much power
    I know, I just can't help but think it'll make no difference. Compressor outlet ID is 55mm. I can see that it would make more difference if I didn't have a lot of volume in the plenum. Maybe I'll go upto 73mm boost hoses and 80mm throttle sometime in the year so I can see what difference it makes.

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    Matt, could be - the big throttle makes it harder for the ECU to judge transient throttle enrichments. Your older ECU has only a 2D throttle pump effect, newer hardware and firmwares have a full 3D map-prediction system that means you can have the throttle response of an OEM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashy View Post
    looks good, is it all from stainless?
    it's all allu mate.

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    Looking good Chris, I wish I had the tools to do stuff like that.
    Can't wait to see this in action later this year, any idea on when you want to start testing @ pod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve L View Post
    Looking good Chris, I wish I had the tools to do stuff like that.
    Can't wait to see this in action later this year, any idea on when you want to start testing @ pod?
    The plates are CNC steve, I made the injector bosses on the lathe and runners by hand.

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    I started tacking the inlet manifold together today. Hopefully I'll get the plenum and throttle done tomorrow ready for welding next week. Turns out the throttle is 65mm and I thought it was 60mm so I had to re jig a few parts to cater for that.


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    When your disappointed with your first attempt and decide your gonna make a new and improved MK II version, I'll be more than happy to take your "cast off" for mine

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    work of art

    looks far better than mine

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    Nice work You in your new house yet? hope not if thats your new kitchen worktop or is that just the garage

    Hope all your plans come together nicely and you get to max out this year on the power you were making last year.

    All the work looking and sounding excellent.

    To see more upgrades/power pushed thru the engine in next couple of years wouldnt even matter, Its phenomenal so far, Yet you have left yourself other options and future ideas

    Fingers Crossed for the gearbox and a sub 10 first shot on strip

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    Lovin the board mate .... Look forward to catching up soon mate

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    Finished tacking the manifold together tonight


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    Scoff very impressive you have no end of talent looks super sexy

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    Its not super neat to be fair, but it should work OK

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    Nice work mate...

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    Re: New stuff for 2011

    What a great work of art you have built , fantastic stuff hope you achieve your new goals for 2011

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    Re: New stuff for 2011

    Have you got an ac/dc set in the garage then chris?

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    No jon, just tacked with a mig & argon. I'd love a tig, no space, it'll be something I invest in and learn once I'm set up in the new garage though

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    That's looking all very sorted .You going to mirror polish it ?

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    Just realised how it will sit on on your setup will make the boost pipe run alot shorter aswell, looking forward to seeing your car at national day this year

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    Re: New stuff for 2011

    Scoff,

    Tigs can be really small units:

    http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...arctig-welders


    thats smaller than a lunch box!!

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    matt, yes mate, but when I say no space I mean zero, nowt, literally couldn't fit another thing in the garage I'd need an ac too, which tend to be a bit bigger

    james, yes thats the plan. throttle is really tight on the headlamp surround, need to hack it away to get the throttle sensor in.

    lee, erm

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    For those of you that don't currently have erections...








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    A big thanks to the Glenster, Mr. HI5 for donating the bit of fuel rail extrusion, all his work sorting out the welding guy and the help thereafter. He also managed to convince me that it ought to be polished Lets see how long that'll last

    So that was today, I finished the fuel rail, did the final port shaping and polished the rest of it.

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    Looks fuking amazing bud. Top darts.

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    a work of damn art that.. well done

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    looking good mate, it'll make changing the plugs sooooo much easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashy View Post
    looking good mate, it'll make changing the plugs sooooo much easier
    and inspecting them, it's a big bonus

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    looks fantastic, i've just been watching some of your vids on youtube, awesom stuff

    Maybe a silly question but do you use it on the road Scoff?

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    ooo, i want one, exit to the left tho please

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    Oh very very nice and looks the part too!! Amazing job.

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    I have a bonner

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    That welding looks absolutely perfect.
    So what's next to get the shiney treatment?

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    ohhh luverly ...you can see your face in that

    That looks the business now innit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie172cup View Post
    Maybe a silly question but do you use it on the road Scoff?
    Not so much really, to and from national day and the occasional show or something. If there's a few of you it can be a good laugh

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    or blattin down welsh country roads with a mk1 5 tl attached to the back of it ;-)

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    Sweet..... You got the ID2000s yet? you will have pop over to my new garage soon...

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    There's a good bit of pussy in one of the pics

    Functional and polished!! Very nice bit of kit indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy View Post
    or blattin down welsh country roads with a mk1 5 tl attached to the back of it ;-)
    Ha, it was the other way around I think

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    Awwwwwesome

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