Perhaps on the day!Originally Posted by Wallace
Perhaps on the day!
I spread the word last weekend at ppc in the park about our little event and we should have a fairly lairy vx220 to mix it up with.We really need people to turn up to ND that don't have Renault 5's.......
Maybe offer tickets to the other French clubs? Peugeot and citroen etc.
You finishing the 380bhp Audi s3 conversion in my garage lol or is it the 390bhp Garrett beastie ;-)
Will get a few of the vx220 boys there
DG
You been on the juice Duncan
Lol
6hrs sleep in nearly 4 day's with New baby and 2.5 year old. No juice required
Guess I will crack on with the vx220 conversion myself
DG
Get used to it mate, mine are the same age gap now 4 and 1.5, last time I got a full nights sleep was when I was away with work
sleep Pah !!! you wait till you can't find anything to eat
Tag team food raider lads of 8 ,11 and 13 ...I have to hide me hobknobs or should have had them nipped years ago
Just what I needed to read 1st thing lol - cheers
All,
As there has only been a small number of track time tickets sold, we are going too pen this event up for other clubs and the public.
The last thing we want to do is cancel the Renault Turbo Festival, so this is being done to ensure the club does not make a huge loss and go under.
Before we start advertising elsewhere, can you promote the event to "friends and family"? Its a really cheap Track Day and there will be loads of Renault Turbos also!
Spread the word, keep the club alive
I am going to do my best to get some mates to join up but we really do need people to spread the word to help the club not make a big loss we could make this a really good day if everyone wants it to beAll,
As there has only been a small number of track time tickets sold, we are going too pen this event up for other clubs and the public.
The last thing we want to do is cancel the Renault Turbo Festival, so this is being done to ensure the club does not make a huge loss and go under.
Before we start advertising elsewhere, can you promote the event to "friends and family"? Its a really cheap Track Day and there will be loads of Renault Turbos also!
Spread the word, keep the club alive
Started a thread on the vx220 forums and sure I will get a few there ;-)
DG
Also the abarth club could do with an invite:
http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/
So now everyone will moan due to a lack of Renaults on the day,show and shine open to all
i do still feel, that we are as a club dwindling, we are still 80% renault 5's, we really do need to widen the renault spectrum a lot more somehowalthough i know we have tried this before in the past, with little success
also feel that numbers will be down anyway this year due economic conditions within the uknot meaning to but a downer on the most exellent job steve and the other club members have done again this year,
but most people's spare cash flow will have been affected in one way or another, which is probabley why the number of track bookings etc are down maybe, i do also think it will be great to mix it with other car clubs also, i guess the usal renault forums have been notified
ie clio16valver/williams /renault sports clubwith little or no response
Done Rom - shared you're pic on there. I hope the 306 OC put a few cars this way, great bunch of loonies.All,
As there has only been a small number of track time tickets sold, we are going too pen this event up for other clubs and the public.
The last thing we want to do is cancel the Renault Turbo Festival, so this is being done to ensure the club does not make a huge loss and go under.
Before we start advertising elsewhere, can you promote the event to "friends and family"? Its a really cheap Track Day and there will be loads of Renault Turbos also!
Spread the word, keep the club alive
That's a good un Dunc, my friends yellow VX should be doing the rounds.
i do still feel, that we are as a club dwindling, we are still 80% renault 5's, we really do need to widen the renault spectrum a lot more somehow
also feel that numbers will be down anyway this year due economic conditions within the uk
ie clio16valver/williams /renault sports club
The numbers we don't have are the ones wanting to do track days.
500 members would be ample if 150 were keen to do an exclusive RTOC track day each year. Even half that.
I think the limiting factor preventing RTOC expansion is when the new Sport Renaults rolled off the production line no-one here bought one. Instead other people started their own Megane club, Twingo club, etc.
Over at the Fiat Forum I use many of them do now own new small Fiats and they changed the name a bit to stretch to that 'modernisation'.
All of this is not really going to help up the numbers guys for those looking in TBF, maybe a different thread?
Sooner rather than later.
So the Renault uk festival or RTOC National day is now basically a normal trackday which are run at Blyton but about £14 cheaper than the Javelin run events at Blyton?? shame not like the old days
So the Renault uk festival or RTOC National day is now basically a normal trackday which are run at Blyton but about £14 cheaper than the Javelin run events at Blyton?? shame not like the old days
There is nothing I would love more than to see 49 other Renault turbos on the track at Blyton... but tickets are not selling.
Rather than cancel the event and make a huge loss, we thought we would try and save it and put on a show for those who have already got tickets or are planning on attending.
I'm looking forward to meeting the other members as well as the track action.
look at the figures for last year im pretty sure not many tickets sold till the last minute then? Maybe people who arent attending should stop posting negative comments on this thread..... we want to keep this thread as open and postive as possible
Its a shame that tickets are having to be shared out to other clubs now, its not what the RTOC Nat Days are about
Wonder what all the reasons are for people not buying tickets, I know my reason's are for not buying ticket for Blyton. I have bought Retro ticket so least will be making part of the weekend
The problem is we need people to commit up front...
The clubs banks are what they used to be (still healthy and will be for a long time), but if we have 1 bad ND that could have very serious implications for our future... We need people to commit and buy tickets early...
for us its purely to longer drive (even though we are doing a one off to sangliers to see what its like) and we prefer pod better, i suppose its just what people prefer every1s different
How about offering them at williamsclio, clio16valver, cliosport etc.
Lot's of track people there and could be interesting seeing other Renaults too, i mean, enough Clio turbo on there too
At £5 for camping 2 nights and a fun get together for a weekend its pretty cheap and a great laugh, the trackdays just entertainment to watch and/or join in with............ ANYONE WHO DOESNT WANT TO TAKE THERE 5 ON TRACK ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME ALONG FOR SOME PASSENGER LAPS WITH ME
Although I would love to attend, it's just too far for me. I also work 6 day weeks...sometimes I'm lucky and can get a colleague to cover me on a Saturday, but I cannot for this weekend.
I aim to be going to Santa Pod though
Unfortunately due to both pod and national day being so close and me going on holiday the day after this weekend I just couldn't afford everything, so pod got the nod due to it being nearer plus a friendly bit of banter with a m8 and his S3 tipped it for me, I don't think I'll beat him though
seems to me , maybe nd at pod may of been the best bet... maybe too many things together in one weekend , most people cant afford all or get the free time etc, forcing peeps to choose...
Couldn't get pod at a weekend, and people moaned if ND wasn't on a weekend they wouldn't attend... Last year we had piggy backed on a event at pod (a test a tune day I think) and we struggled to sell them tickets... So was decided pod hire was a no go..seems to me , maybe nd at pod may of been the best bet... maybe too many things together in one weekend , most people cant afford all or get the free time etc, forcing peeps to choose...
seems to me , maybe nd at pod may of been the best bet... maybe too many things together in one weekend , most people cant afford all or get the free time etc, forcing peeps to choose...
Well i am looking forward to it we have gained some new members who seem keen national day is what we make it where ever it is if you want to show your car and not track it thats good i personally wont track mine but will take it and park with others for people to look round and then have a laugh at the evening and the nxt day convoy to pod. cant wait
look at the figures for last year im pretty sure not many tickets sold till the last minute then? Maybe people who arent attending should stop posting negative comments on this thread..... we want to keep this thread as open and postive as possible
That's more like it Tony- everyone turn into a 'Tony' =At £5 for camping 2 nights and a fun get together for a weekend its pretty cheap and a great laugh, the trackdays just entertainment to watch and/or join in with............ ANYONE WHO DOESNT WANT TO TAKE THERE 5 ON TRACK ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME ALONG FOR SOME PASSENGER LAPS WITH ME
PM Romil,ive had interest from the other clubs let me know asap.
I'm really looking forward to it I must say. The last 2 ND's have been the best ever as far as I'm concerned. Previous to 2011 I hadn't been to an ND in years but I won't miss them now! If anyone wants a pax ride in my car just come and see me. Likewise feel free to come and see me for a chat and a beer too (bring your own f*cking beer though!
Just need to actually out the car back together now. Chop chop Matty........
Whats the limit on track tickets? If they sell out to these other clubs, and there's none left when the Renault crew finally get their shizzle together, are we going to have a RTOC ND where most of the Renault Turbo's are sidelined?
I've got mine, and I don't particularly care what i'm going to be upsetting with my rustbucket Renault, I guess I just find it a little sad at the lack of motivation from the club. It reminds me of the 21toc a few years ago, which is literally now just the core few remaining with any hope of recovery long forgotten
You answered your own question there very well Dave, lack of motivation (and ultimately sales of tickets) will result in future RTOC events not being grand affairs.Whats the limit on track tickets? If they sell out to these other clubs, and there's none left when the Renault crew finally get their shizzle together, are we going to have a RTOC ND where most of the Renault Turbo's are sidelined?
I've got mine, and I don't particularly care what i'm going to be upsetting with my rustbucket Renault, I guess I just find it a little sad at the lack of motivation from the club. It reminds me of the 21toc a few years ago, which is literally now just the core few remaining with any hope of recovery long forgotten
I would love for all the members of the RTOC to buy the tickets and the RTOC ND being for the RTOC, but I also want to see this club limp along for a few years yet & don't want the money the club does have to be spend on a ND that loses money so unfortunately I'd rather get the tickets sold & keep the club coffers healthy.
ROCK<---- rtoc ---->HARD PLACE
Doesn't this always happen though? ie, not much uptake of the tickets months before the event, then there's a mass purchase of them the week or 2 before-hand.
I guess there's a few other events on that month as well though, and maybe hosting ND on the same weekend as the Retro Show @ Pod may also have dictated where people spent their moolah, if it didn't allow for attending both events/if you're more swayed towards 1/4 mile racing.
Maybe trackdays (or ND at track venues) have had their time, and we either need to head back to Santa Pod next year, or try a completely different format/venue? (eg, run to the sun).
That's rhetoric btw, not me stating that is the case
This has been said many times mart we can not have pod on a weekend mate thats them not us we booked pod all be it on a test and tune day and hardly any intrest mate. And last year lost thousands even with the last minute rush its a diffucult situation
I didn't say about hosting it on a weekend though
Sure, last year's test & tune event was a let down, but there seems to be a resurgence for 1/4 miling again this year...or maybe it's because people can't be assed to travel all the way to Blyton, hence another reason why ticket sales have been good for the Retro Event, given it's more central location?
Perhaps the Show & Shine aftermath shenanigans still lingers in some member's minds too?
Personally, I prefer a track-based ND venue, but would still happily go to Pod if it came to that - After all, it's all about supporting the club at the end of the day.
Or, as said, perhaps a new format/venue is required to re-stoke the fire...
When the possibility arose that we could have the two on the same weekend it seemed like a good thing. Convoys to Blyton and then to Pod, etc. Both track and proper 1/4 mile cater for in the same weekend event.
Perhaps I'd underestimated the ability of RTOC members to pay?? Perhaps there too little money going around now and even though the Retro show is low cost it's been mentioned a few times in this thread that it adds up to too much cost for one weekend?
Or is the Blyton somewhat northern location a factor.
Or is it that there really are not many people who what a track day in this club now? If we look at the advance sales, Pod is more than two to one for Blyton. But then the track day is FAR more expensive and there are a lot of other events on.
Is the drive between Blyton and Pod a factor meaning some people can't get very drunk on Saturday night and that social aspect is a main draw?
Its a little bit of everything! At a high level, this is what I have picked up from club members over the last month (long standing members too)...
We are all doing a great job but really need the members on board to drive the club forward.
- Blyton is too far up (southern peeps)
- RTOCers are not interested in Track days (as most people spend too much on their cars to put on track)
- We dont want a track day back-to-back with a POD day
- Too expensive! Not the cost of the track time but tyres, brakes, etc...
Perhaps next year then we could get in with Retro Show again; a proper track for drag racing and good social event.
And for those within range of Northern London, the Enfield Motor Pageant may be even more popular and a good 'turn up and camp' social event, like has been suggested for an RTOC ND meeting a fair few times over the last couple of years.
Maybe another one similar for the Midlands to Northern members at a place of choosing of people from that region.
Cease attempting to put on an RTOC track day. Those interested could perhaps come up with a solution around booking places with someone else' day? Like was done with the FSC in 2007?
Book a big field in the middle of country, camping for weekend, have a laugh, bbq and beer at night, and during day for a nice countryside drive with a lot of renault turbos in a row. Cheap weekend and means a lot of people can still catch up. I dont attend ND for track or drag strip, thats just a bonus I attend to catch up with people who I have not seen for ages.
Isle of Man outing anyone?
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